Week 5 - Toronto @ Montreal GDT

[17to85]

I dunno, sure looks like they gave up.

Looks like they have nothing for Montreal, that's what it looks like.

I'd say it looks like Avon has taken his game up a notch or 2. He sure destroyed us pretty much by himself. Good win Als, more like what we recall of the Als last year.

Makes you think "what if Trestman had not gone for it and kicked a sure FG at the half of week 1?" The Als could likely be unbeaten. I don't see any east team challenging them unless they lose someone important or the rest of the east gets a lot better.

montreals defense hasn't been as solid as they have in the past, a team with a good offense will go toe to toe with them (see week 1) so the bombers should be able to give them a challenge, just the argos who lack offence couldn't keep Calvillo on the sidelines.

[Reider]

I dunno, sure looks like they gave up.

Looks like they have nothing for Montreal, that's what it looks like.

I'd say it looks like Avon has taken his game up a notch or 2. He sure destroyed us pretty much by himself. Good win Als, more like what we recall of the Als last year.

Makes you think "what if Trestman had not gone for it and kicked a sure FG at the half of week 1?"

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

[17to85]

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

then there isn't that extra guy rushing the kicker and he makes the first field goal, duh.

[Reider]

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

then there isn't that extra guy rushing the kicker and he makes the first field goal, duh.

No.

[ArgoDave]

montreals defense hasn't been as solid as they have in the past, a team with a good offense will go toe to toe with them (see week 1) so the bombers should be able to give them a challenge, just the argos who lack offence couldn't keep Calvillo on the sidelines.

A challenge?? Sure your offense looked good vs the 2 worst teams in the league ( but not the Argos BTW ) but elsewhere sputtered.

AC is getting great protection and will pick you apart. Their D is very aggressive and good. They are a well balanced team. Are the Bombers?

Recall, the game wasn't a total blowout as much as a 2nd half meltdown by the Argos. You can't do that vs the Als, they'll kill you every time. Like Barker said, we got schooled. We got time to improve until 2012.

I won't be disappointed if we go 9-9 this season, that a hell of a lot better than just about everyone thought we would. IMO, 2nd in the east is still WIDE open.

[ArgoDave]

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

No offense intended, just saying it could be argued the Als could be unbeaten so far This year, they're that good. Certainly their win streak at home is impressive.

[jay64]

The Argos, like the Riders last week, had their "crashing back down to earth" game... the Als offence had to get untracked sooner or later, and the Argos were the ones unfortunate enough to stand in their way. I guess Rob Murphy should tweet about how his team got totally schooled on the art of being a dominant football team...

[Geo_Jones_Dog]

The Argos, like the Riders last week, had their "crashing back down to earth" game... the Als offence had to get untracked sooner or later, and the Argos were the ones unfortunate enough to stand in their way. I guess Rob Murphy should tweet about how his team got totally schooled on the art of being a dominant football team...

.......in "Frenchland"......

[BBlink]

I fully expect Montreal to win this one in a walk. They will not be able to match the points put up by AC and the Montreal offense.

I wouldn't call 17-10 at the half a 'walk'.

Spoke too soon. You can spin this anyway you want Dave but my comment was spot on. Personally I thought the Argos would put up more than 10 points (was thinking closer to 17), and if they had it would have still been considered a 'walk'.

I'm not sure about the "second half meltdown" argument either. Montreal dominated for the whole 60 minutes. The Arblows couldn't stop them all game long. The only reason the first half didn't look lopsided was because of a gutsy effort by the Toronto offensive line and Lemon getting 7 seconds in the pocket to find a receiver deep.

That being said congrats to the Argos on being a much better team this year (no where to go but up). Just can't hang with the big boys yet.

[pigseye]

The Als defence has been cranking it up since the 4th quarter of the Edmonton game.

Don't forget, they had very little practice time up until this game. They only had 1 full day of practice even before the Hamilton. Now they are home and cooled for awhile and are starting to play sound.

The next few weeks with start to separate the pretenders from the rest of the pack.

[Bluto]

Good win Als. They comprehensively showed everyone who the best team in the East is and put to rest any talk of Toronto being ready to mount a challenge for the Eastern title yet.

i take lots of positives away from this one (including a penalty riddled drive that in spite of the uncharacteristic lapses of discipline, the Argos still marched down the field and put up a major against the league's best defence when they were still fresh. The first quarter was neck and neck, the second quarter the Als got the upper hand... the second half turned into a squash. i like Barker... but having both coaches 2nd half adjustments put side by side just shows the divide in quality between him and Trestman (last night anyways). i think we'll do better when we get them out of Percival (where those guys are damn near superhuman), but i doubt the victor will be any different - the Argos are only 5 games into their rebuild.

Other teams in the East may have enjoyed watching the second half stomping... but imo, they should be watching and picturing what is very likely to happen to their teams (especially Winnipeg who have a very pedestrian defence, imo) when they go to "frenchland".

[BBlink]

I only liked the second half stomping because I picked Montreal in my pool. It's good to see that the East is stronger this year. As of the end of last week the East actually had 2 more wins than the west which hasn't happened in some time.

[Reider]

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

No offense intended, just saying it could be argued the Als could be unbeaten so far This year, they're that good. Certainly their win streak at home is impressive.

Yeah, they definitely had their chances to put Sk away, but they didn't. Sk's resiliency was too much for them to overcome.

[ArgoDave]

I'm not sure about the "second half meltdown" argument either. Montreal dominated for the whole 60 minutes. The Arblows couldn't stop them all game long. The only reason the first half didn't look lopsided was because of a gutsy effort by the Toronto offensive line and Lemon getting 7 seconds in the pocket to find a receiver deep.

That being said congrats to the Argos on being a much better team this year (no where to go but up). Just can't hang with the big boys yet.

False! Look at the halftime stats, the Argos lead in many categories including 1st downs and Time Of Possession, and at that point there were Zero Turnovers. The TV guys were quite pointed and surprised when they discussed it. The one big break the Als got in the first half was the Roughing The Kicker penalty that extended the drive that put them ahead just before the half.

As for 'hanging with the big boys' we beat the Bombers, BC and Calgary so what does that say about them?

Let's be brutally honest here, other than the Als and Riders, and perhaps Calgary, the rest of the CFL is struggling and not to even be considered 'big boys'.

Yet.

[ArgoDave]

Makes you think... "what if the Riders could count to 13?" What then Dave? Lets not play this what if game anymore.

No offense intended, just saying it could be argued the Als could be unbeaten so far This year, they're that good. Certainly their win streak at home is impressive.

Yeah, they definitely had their chances to put Sk away, but they didn't. Sk's resiliency was too much for them to overcome.

I know it's 'what if' but if the Als had gone into the half with a 3 Major lead the whole game momentum could have changed. I still say they should have went for the sure points, but I can see why Trestman did it.

[Reider]

Let's be brutally honest here, other than the Als and Riders, and perhaps Calgary, the rest of the CFL is struggling and not to even be considered 'big boys'.

Yet.

That's a fair assessment at this point.

[17to85]

A challenge?? Sure your offense looked good vs the 2 worst teams in the league ( but not the Argos BTW ) but elsewhere sputtered.

bombers O has been good in all but 1 game this year, you can pretend not to see it all you like but the stats back it up, the bombers offense is one of the very best in the league right now.

[ArgoDave]

A challenge?? Sure your offense looked good vs the 2 worst teams in the league ( but not the Argos BTW ) but elsewhere sputtered.

bombers O has been good in all but 1 game this year, you can pretend not to see it all you like but the stats back it up, the bombers offense is one of the very best in the league right now.

But your boys still only beat the 2 cellar dwellers. Pretend not to see that all you want.

Last year you raved about your D, but what happened by the end of the year? No Playoffs.

[17to85]

A challenge?? Sure your offense looked good vs the 2 worst teams in the league ( but not the Argos BTW ) but elsewhere sputtered.

bombers O has been good in all but 1 game this year, you can pretend not to see it all you like but the stats back it up, the bombers offense is one of the very best in the league right now.

But your boys still only beat the 2 cellar dwellers. Pretend not to see that all you want.

Last year you raved about your D, but what happened by the end of the year? No Playoffs.

yeah here's the difference, this year we have a coach who isn't too arrogant to see when what he's running isn't working. He'll make adjustments unlike last years coach. The offence is humming along fine and the defense has shown flashes, as they get healthy and grow as a unit they'll round into form. Much better situation to be in than the argos are.

[Bomb]

I have had the same thought since the preseason..... and this game confirmed it...
The Argos would be a much better team with Bell as the QB...
If I was a betting man... Bell would of finished the drive if Owens had not handed the ball back to the Als.
Bell looked lightyears ahead of Lemon in the very brief time he entered the game..
The way Lemon was so eager to get back into the game...kind of shows that Lemon realizes this as well.